tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post113313771007579560..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Tilting at windmills-1Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-72344210832148405472008-01-28T17:30:00.000-05:002008-01-28T17:30:00.000-05:00in my ballywick, the standard operating procedure ...in my ballywick, the standard operating procedure on unforgivable sin is that if you are a true, mature beleiever who has fully partaken of the deepest gifts of the holy spirit, that God will kill ya before he lets you commit the unforgivable sin. Thus, it is only a "warning in extremis". akin to the end time apostacy warning " and even the elect if it were possible would be deluded..." and as to evangelism, I can see no common sense interpretation or exegesis that doesnt fully support at least ultimate human free will in the salvation process. There may be some that are chosen and foreordained to succeed but there can be NONE that are foreordained to fail(suffer eternal damnation)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1133739746944771922005-12-04T18:42:00.000-05:002005-12-04T18:42:00.000-05:00Hi Steve:This is an interesting diatribe, but you ...Hi Steve:<BR/><BR/>This is an interesting diatribe, but you have missed so many points, including the main ones, that it is hard to know what to say. <BR/><BR/>I have read most all of those sources you have mentioned but this is quite beside the point. I said quite clearly at the outset that I was dealing with these different Evangelical theologies as they are found at the popular and most widely disseminated level. This means unlike most of my work I deliberately avoided spending much time debating other scholars. The issues was the ideas, not who said what. <BR/><BR/>What is especially disturbing about your critique is its inability to be self-critical. This is unfortunate and it reduces your remarks to pure polemics, which is sad. <BR/><BR/>Try again to recognize that all these theological systems, including Arminianism have their weaknesses particularly when they try to say something distinctive. <BR/><BR/>And as for not knowing the difference between Reformed and Lutheran theology, shame on you--- how would you know whether I do or not? In fact, I not only attended a Reformed seminary and read almost all of Calvin's major works, and Jonathan Edwards and various later exponents like the Hodges and Warfield, I also read most of Luther-- who is even more Augustinian than Calvin, especially on the issues of secondary causes! <BR/><BR/>So I would suggest you take a good look at your critique again, and rethink this. If you are unable to be self-critical, then you need to learn to listen to others who will help you with that.<BR/><BR/>Ben WitheringtonBen Witheringtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06017701050859255865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1133298320905975192005-11-29T16:05:00.000-05:002005-11-29T16:05:00.000-05:00Excellent Steve! Thank you fir the time and care ...Excellent Steve! <BR/><BR/>Thank you fir the time and care you brought to this issue.<BR/><BR/>Grace and peace to you,<BR/>Steve Camp<BR/>2 Cor. 4:5-7SJ Camphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844201288864307481noreply@blogger.com