tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post1036432516867611340..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: A Refresher on “Apostolic Succession”Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-29339239713024071352015-01-28T13:47:47.094-05:002015-01-28T13:47:47.094-05:00Vincent, I wouldn't say he inherited it. He bo...Vincent, I wouldn't say he inherited it. He borrowed it, and used it against them. The point isn't that this was a bad idea. The point was that this was a NEW idea for the church. It worked at the time. But the larger point is, we're not just 150 years out -- we're 2000 years out. So what had held for a small church across a century, in no way is an "ontological reality" -- it wasn't back then, and nor is it now. John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-71948972285287009502015-01-28T10:39:21.605-05:002015-01-28T10:39:21.605-05:00So Irenaeus inherited an idea from the Gnostics? I...So Irenaeus inherited an idea from the Gnostics? I dont think modern day Rome understands tradition to be secretive or cultic. I remember Ratzinger spoke out against that idea of tradition. Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17686738325565738419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-123039131131818862015-01-28T07:29:05.691-05:002015-01-28T07:29:05.691-05:00Hi Vincent, yes, this refers to the language that ...Hi Vincent, yes, this refers to the language that Irenaeus picked up regarding "tradition" and "succession".John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-30042394634805601552015-01-28T06:00:53.357-05:002015-01-28T06:00:53.357-05:00John was not the Gnostic view of Tradition and Suc...John was not the Gnostic view of Tradition and Succession later endorsed by Iraneus and other fathers later on? Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17686738325565738419noreply@blogger.com